tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post113959904366005851..comments2023-12-29T10:21:33.956+00:00Comments on The Mysterious Case Of The Non-Existent Train Time: Reply from BBC HorizonBridgethttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143445551444091882006-03-27T08:45:00.000+01:002006-03-27T08:45:00.000+01:00Sorry. My posts are doing wild things. The link be...Sorry. My posts are doing wild things. The link below:<BR/><B>http://www.bloggerheads.com/<BR/>archives/2004/11/were_all_going.asp</B><BR/>is a good initial stepping stone into realising the lies the govt etc is telling you. They want you to live in fear. There damn successful too arnt they/ Its them that are making the fear.<BR/><BR/><B>Re: Witnesses:</B><BR/>When deMenezes was bruitally Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143444190434574822006-03-27T08:23:00.000+01:002006-03-27T08:23:00.000+01:00Steve. I forgot to include links into the British ...Steve. I forgot to include links into the British 9-11 prevented hoax, showing you that many Brits are indeed living in a deliberate hoax of fear.<BR/><BR/>Heres a feeder into the whole issue. Please research it.<BR/><BR/><B>'Al-Qaeda skyscraper plot foiled'</B> <BR/>1) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/<BR/>uk_news/4034319.stm<BR/><BR/>2) www.bloggerheads.com/archives/<BR/>2004/11/were_all_going.asp<BRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143433336141858092006-03-27T05:22:00.000+01:002006-03-27T05:22:00.000+01:00Steve (March 24, 2006 11:41 PM) said:"I agree abou...Steve (March 24, 2006 11:41 PM) said:<BR/><BR/><I>"I agree about the lack of evidence in the media. As a survivor I gather a lot of information from officials, senior officers and other survivors, all of it in confidence. I can't betray that confidence."</I><BR/>Steve. Has the possiblilty that you are being 'played' by these people ever crossed your mind? LEts say these people were actually in a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143432958153125402006-03-27T05:15:00.000+01:002006-03-27T05:15:00.000+01:00Re: lack of reply...I can understand your need to ...Re: lack of reply...<BR/><BR/>I can understand your need to step back Steve, but I can also understand <B>kier</B>'s point that in fact, you may not have naswered the queriers sufficiently in order for those queriers to be dead and buried. I have been away for a few days which explains my lack of a response.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I think its fair to say at this point (especially seeing as you say you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143378620425555572006-03-26T14:10:00.000+01:002006-03-26T14:10:00.000+01:00Steve you said:'There are people who already do th...Steve you said:<BR/><BR/>'There are people who already do this, they're called historians. They question the who/what/why/where and when of EVERY source.'<BR/><BR/>The MPS one week anninversary press release recapped the existing evidence. They stated on 13/7/05 that the device was placed by the first set of double doors on carriage one on the Piccadilly Line. This information has never been Bridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143375961433129242006-03-26T13:26:00.000+01:002006-03-26T13:26:00.000+01:00They couldn't have got the train we are TOLD they ...They couldn't have got the train we are TOLD they took. Again, and for the LAST TIME, Luton is on the mainline from Glasgow to London. There are trains to London very regularly, several an hour. It is impossible for one of these trains not to have run on time. And seeing as the trains were delayed, so to would earlier ones, so they could have got an earlier one.<BR/><BR/>Why aren't we TOLD this?<stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327580255899751375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143246540504420212006-03-25T00:29:00.000+00:002006-03-25T00:29:00.000+00:00SteveOne more time (with feeling!):I am just wonde...Steve<BR/><BR/>One more time (with feeling!):<BR/><BR/>I am just wondering what you make of the fact that these 4 young men couldn't have got on the train we are told they took and still boarded the underground trains?<BR/><BR/>ThanksBridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143245189435867852006-03-25T00:06:00.000+00:002006-03-25T00:06:00.000+00:00Steve - just to clarify. I'm sorry if I've come ac...Steve - just to clarify. I'm sorry if I've come across as hypocritical. For my part, what I was saying in a previous post in this thread was that you did not respond to a direct question I asked, to which I could not see that you had made any previous reference. I wanted you to expand on a comment, in the same way that I would do for you. <BR/><BR/>I do see your point, but I hope you can Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143244847365820722006-03-25T00:00:00.000+00:002006-03-25T00:00:00.000+00:00I agree about the lack of evidence in the media. ...I agree about the lack of evidence in the media. As a survivor I gather a lot of information from officials, senior officers and other survivors, all of it in confidence. I can't betray that confidence.<BR/><BR/>But, I know, and have seen it on the web posted by someone else (so i can mention it) that someone on my platform tried to board behind Lindsay, or at least someone matching his stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327580255899751375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143243678022049922006-03-24T23:41:00.000+00:002006-03-24T23:41:00.000+00:00Steve Kier and AnonymousThank you all for the enga...Steve Kier and Anonymous<BR/><BR/>Thank you all for the engaging discussion, and Steve, I can understand how tiring this must all be for you.<BR/><BR/>Before you go, you said:<BR/><BR/>'in fact I blew all theories out the water, except the lack of CCTV images' <BR/><BR/>I am just wondering what you make of the fact that these 4 young men couldn't have got on the train we are told they took and Bridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143243607689905632006-03-24T23:40:00.000+00:002006-03-24T23:40:00.000+00:00And, not being funny but, you and "anonymous" had ...And, not being funny but, you and "anonymous" had a go at me for not responding. So my lack of a response = lack of an argument. But your lack of a response = confirmation of a previous argument. Sorry but that is quite hipocritical I think.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327580255899751375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143242616426185482006-03-24T23:23:00.000+00:002006-03-24T23:23:00.000+00:00Well, basically, being 22 (at the time) fairly imm...Well, basically, being 22 (at the time) fairly immature and literally obsessed by EVERYTHING related I needed to step away. I realised that when I began discussing chemicals and explosives I had stupidly gone way too far and pulled away. As you may know from my blog I'm and industrial designer, I just happened to have done a years project on dry cleaning agents which I was presenting in London stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327580255899751375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143241044065482562006-03-24T22:57:00.000+00:002006-03-24T22:57:00.000+00:00But your comments were contested. Perhaps even aft...But your comments <I>were</I> contested. Perhaps even after your responses, the others, like me, felt that their original arguments still stood against what was subsequently said, and, like you are doing now, could not be bothered to repeat themselves. I certainly didn't respond to the suggestion that the timestamp on the CCTV camera outside Luton station could have been wrong. It's obviously a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143240041542898562006-03-24T22:40:00.000+00:002006-03-24T22:40:00.000+00:00Hi all, ok, I'll be polite and tell you why I'm no...Hi all, <BR/><BR/>ok, I'll be polite and tell you why I'm not responding. It is because:<BR/><BR/>a) I simply don't have time, sorry to sound lazy.<BR/><BR/>b) I've already disected all the theories on the site of 'antagonist', whilst I was still in shock and had an unhealthy obsession with anything and everything July 7th related. I was 'Tony-Superior', infact I blew all theories out the water, stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327580255899751375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143129520211237982006-03-23T15:58:00.000+00:002006-03-23T15:58:00.000+00:00In agreement with anonymous. I am very concerned a...In agreement with anonymous. I am very concerned at the dogma surrounding the events of 7/7 which keep being perpetuated as if they were absolute facts instead of extremely questionable issues. I find phraseology such as<BR/><BR/>"This really is the end of the matter."<BR/><BR/>very arbitrary....it might well be the end of the matter as far as you are concerned Steve, but you must surely see thatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143123410297615232006-03-23T14:16:00.000+00:002006-03-23T14:16:00.000+00:00I'm disconcerted at your repitition that others ho...I'm disconcerted at your repitition that others hold you to be a fool. Despite me clearly saying I do not think you are a fool. What to do huh?<BR/><BR/>If you have a legitimate response then out with it man. Whats the point of visiting a forum such as this only to keep your assertions to yourself??? I come here for answers. Perhaps you have some. Please tell me. Answer the points I put instead Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143110882692477602006-03-23T10:48:00.000+00:002006-03-23T10:48:00.000+00:00Anonymous,You obviously do think I’m a fool. Belie...Anonymous,<BR/><BR/>You obviously do think I’m a fool. Believe me I do have an argument and legitimate response about the questions of July 7th. But seeing as you are just trying to coax me into a debate/argument which neither of us could win I refuse to rise to you. I’ve seen what happens when other survivors attempt to debate this with people like you get, you get personal, abusive and stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327580255899751375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143034398187534032006-03-22T13:33:00.000+00:002006-03-22T13:33:00.000+00:00Steve (March 22, 2006 10:30 AM) said: "There you'v...Steve (March 22, 2006 10:30 AM) said: "There you've already decided, Blair did it, there's nothing I can say." however you, again completely fail to acknowledge that I have arrived at the conclusion based on a considered opinion from all that I have read. Whereas you Steve, believe Tony Blair based on nothing, or a fictional myth visibly demonstrated and loyally peddled by the likes of the Sun Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143032382775101062006-03-22T12:59:00.000+00:002006-03-22T12:59:00.000+00:00Steve - you saw those men detonate suicide bombs o...Steve - you saw those men detonate suicide bombs on July 7th? Is that what you're saying in that last paragraph?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143023412015643122006-03-22T10:30:00.000+00:002006-03-22T10:30:00.000+00:00"The overwhelming suggestions are that Tony Blair ..."The overwhelming suggestions are that Tony Blair played a part in this sickening act of terrorism"<BR/><BR/>There you've already decided, Blair did it, there's nothing I can say. <BR/><BR/>As for Iraq, again I have no idea why you're arguing with me since I agree with you. Hear that, I agree. I felt exactly the same as you, seriously angry, infact I labelled Blair a murderer myself at one point.stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327580255899751375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143019598263096072006-03-22T09:26:00.000+00:002006-03-22T09:26:00.000+00:00BTW, a group of us were on the Stop the War demons...BTW, a group of us were on the Stop the War demonstration in London on March 18th carrying a 20 ft banner with '7/7 WHO REALLY BOMBED LONDON?' and handing out 'pink' leaflets to many interested on-lookers and participants.<BR/><BR/>The majority of people we spoke with were of the opinion that it had nothing to do with these 4 young men.<BR/><BR/>A new July Seventh website will be launched soon byBridgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04220942517267393608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1143000244494561512006-03-22T04:04:00.000+00:002006-03-22T04:04:00.000+00:00The BBC link that didn't make it:"http://news.bbc....The BBC link that didn't make it:<BR/><BR/>"http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/<BR/><BR/>programmes/correspondent/1191203.stm"<BR/><BR/>Remove the two line breaks<BR/><BR/>Bridget is correct. We are starting to see a re-run of the lies that Tony Blair said of Iraq, now being transported onto Iran. Already we have seen UK government lies (about Iranian weapons parts) being churned out only to be proved Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1142999476468154852006-03-22T03:51:00.000+00:002006-03-22T03:51:00.000+00:00Before you lynch me...Too late sorry. I replied, w...Before you lynch me...<BR/>Too late sorry. I replied, with justification, to what you said in the previous post.<BR/><BR/>You say: "I felt that an Iraq without Saddam must have been a better option"<BR/>I think the whole world probably felt that, but the oligolateralists lies that brought about that decision, and the death it caused (which has said to have been greater than the deaths under Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1142998382590819952006-03-22T03:33:00.000+00:002006-03-22T03:33:00.000+00:00March 21, 2006 1:46 PMSteve, you are apologising f...March 21, 2006 1:46 PM<BR/><BR/>Steve, you are apologising for him, by not labeling him accordingly for the wanton death and destruction he has, in part, casued. Instead you choose to label him as a man that has made an error of judgement. The murder (for that is what it is) he orders doesnt cross your lips.<BR/><BR/>I am not complaining about the decision to go to war in retrospect. All of the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16095826.post-1142979759023920412006-03-21T22:22:00.000+00:002006-03-21T22:22:00.000+00:00I'm not exactly sure what we're arguing about (if ...I'm not exactly sure what we're arguing about (if we put aside 7/7). We're all anti the current UK foreign policy, we're all anti Iraq war (and always have been), we all agree what is going on there is atrocious and we're all anti Blair. I personally think he's vile, but I always have. I hate to take the 'I told you so' approach but I never saw anything other than a slimy liar in Blair, even as astevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00327580255899751375noreply@blogger.com